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	<title>Comments on: Family Secrets: To Tell or Not to Tell about Conception and Adoption</title>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the thoughtful comments and responses we&#039;ve received to Esther&#039;s comment posted on the original page for this blog. http://www.creatingafamily.org/blog/adoption-domestic-adoption-international-adoption-embryo-adoption-foster-care-adoption/switched-at-birth/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the thoughtful comments and responses we&#8217;ve received to Esther&#8217;s comment posted on the original page for this blog. <a href="http://www.creatingafamily.org/blog/adoption-domestic-adoption-international-adoption-embryo-adoption-foster-care-adoption/switched-at-birth/" rel="nofollow">http://www.creatingafamily.org/blog/adoption-domestic-adoption-international-adoption-embryo-adoption-foster-care-adoption/switched-at-birth/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to the show and I agree with you that it is a cautionary tale for those of us who built our families through egg donation. Our daughter is still a baby, but we&#039;ve been trying to decide if to tell her. We had already just about decided to tell her, but after reading this and listening to the show, we&#039;ve decided to definitely go for it. I&#039;ve heard a bunch of your Creatig a Family shows that talk about how to go about it, but can you give me any other advice. She is still too young, but it doesn&#039;t hurt for us to start getting ready.

I&#039;m sorry that Esther&#039;s 96 year old mother had to go through that. It is said all the way around.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to the show and I agree with you that it is a cautionary tale for those of us who built our families through egg donation. Our daughter is still a baby, but we&#8217;ve been trying to decide if to tell her. We had already just about decided to tell her, but after reading this and listening to the show, we&#8217;ve decided to definitely go for it. I&#8217;ve heard a bunch of your Creatig a Family shows that talk about how to go about it, but can you give me any other advice. She is still too young, but it doesn&#8217;t hurt for us to start getting ready.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that Esther&#8217;s 96 year old mother had to go through that. It is said all the way around.</p>
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		<title>By: The Taylor 5</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Taylor 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a really sad story for all concerned. For what it&#039;s worth, I thought you were more than generous in your description of the Miller family &lt;strong&gt;as it was described in the story&lt;/strong&gt;. In some shows it&#039;s more obvious when they are editing to make a point.  But you got to admit that the way the women were told was less than tactful.

As to your real point, family secrets, it seems to me that the donor egg community can learn a lot from the adoption community in this area.  I agree with you that secrets are almost always destructive.  Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a really sad story for all concerned. For what it&#8217;s worth, I thought you were more than generous in your description of the Miller family <strong>as it was described in the story</strong>. In some shows it&#8217;s more obvious when they are editing to make a point.  But you got to admit that the way the women were told was less than tactful.</p>
<p>As to your real point, family secrets, it seems to me that the donor egg community can learn a lot from the adoption community in this area.  I agree with you that secrets are almost always destructive.  Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: meljurgens</title>
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		<dc:creator>meljurgens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow--I just listened to that story on NPR. What a heartwrenching thing to go through, for all of them. I understand that times were different then, and more so, perhaps, for the wife of a pastor, but I cannot imagine carrying such a burden for 43 years. I truly wish all involved peace going forward. It reinforces for me all the more the notion of why in the case of our children, who are adopted, the more they know of their biological family, the better. No secrets. It&#039;s not the easiest concept to tackle, particularly as our kids came to us via foster care. I have thought long and hard about how to answer questions about their conception, birth fathers who are no longer &quot;in the picture,&quot; birth mothers whose addresses are unknown, why they were removed from their care, why they never returned to them, etc. I feel even more strongly now, though, that the truth, presented in age-appropriate ways, will be far less painful in the long run. And the fact is, I&#039;m so glad they are ours--I feel they were meant to be ours--so there is nothing in their backstories about which I am ashamed or embarrassed. But still, there are aspects that will likely cause them grief. All we can do is be there for them and reassure them that, no matter what, they are ours and we wanted them desperately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8211;I just listened to that story on NPR. What a heartwrenching thing to go through, for all of them. I understand that times were different then, and more so, perhaps, for the wife of a pastor, but I cannot imagine carrying such a burden for 43 years. I truly wish all involved peace going forward. It reinforces for me all the more the notion of why in the case of our children, who are adopted, the more they know of their biological family, the better. No secrets. It&#8217;s not the easiest concept to tackle, particularly as our kids came to us via foster care. I have thought long and hard about how to answer questions about their conception, birth fathers who are no longer &#8220;in the picture,&#8221; birth mothers whose addresses are unknown, why they were removed from their care, why they never returned to them, etc. I feel even more strongly now, though, that the truth, presented in age-appropriate ways, will be far less painful in the long run. And the fact is, I&#8217;m so glad they are ours&#8211;I feel they were meant to be ours&#8211;so there is nothing in their backstories about which I am ashamed or embarrassed. But still, there are aspects that will likely cause them grief. All we can do is be there for them and reassure them that, no matter what, they are ours and we wanted them desperately.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Esther for sharing more of the &quot;real&quot; story.  It is always good for us to be reminded that shows such as This American Life are inherently designed for entertainment and edited to present the story in the way to attract the most listeners. 

I did think that the show portrayed your family as dysfunctional and I appreciate your setting the record straight. As I think my essay/blog illustrated, I well know that any of our families could be portrayed that way because none of us is perfect.

The purpose of my blog was to illustrate the destructive power of family secrets, which I think still rings true in your family&#039;s story. While the tragedy of switching children at birth is not common, many families created by donor gametes (egg or sperm) are repeating the mistakes that your family made.  While your mother was not sure and had little recourse, these families do know for sure and can tell their children throughout their lives in a loving and age appropriate manner.

I hope your sisters Marti and Sue, as well as both extended families, have made peace with this really difficult situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Esther for sharing more of the &#8220;real&#8221; story.  It is always good for us to be reminded that shows such as This American Life are inherently designed for entertainment and edited to present the story in the way to attract the most listeners. </p>
<p>I did think that the show portrayed your family as dysfunctional and I appreciate your setting the record straight. As I think my essay/blog illustrated, I well know that any of our families could be portrayed that way because none of us is perfect.</p>
<p>The purpose of my blog was to illustrate the destructive power of family secrets, which I think still rings true in your family&#8217;s story. While the tragedy of switching children at birth is not common, many families created by donor gametes (egg or sperm) are repeating the mistakes that your family made.  While your mother was not sure and had little recourse, these families do know for sure and can tell their children throughout their lives in a loving and age appropriate manner.</p>
<p>I hope your sisters Marti and Sue, as well as both extended families, have made peace with this really difficult situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[I received this comment this morning posted on the first post of this essay but wanted to let more people hear her point of view.]

I am the youngest daughter of Mary K. and Rev. Norbert Miller, and youngest sister of Marti and Sue, of whom the This American Life episode “Switched at Birth” is about. I must tell you that you have it wrong when you say that my mother told Sue and Marti of her suspicions (about them being switched as babies) AFTER my father passed away. In fact, the radio episode noted that my father was alive at the time my mother wrote the letters to the girls and he lived six more years beyond that.

You should know that I take issue with the This American Life episode, concerning the baby switch, that portrays my (Miller) family, as you say, as “screwy”. The episode chose to skew the facts to make a more dramatic story for the radio and left out a lot of facts from the interviews that would have made it fairer to the Miller family. They chose not to tell you negative things about the McDonald family that may have put a different spin on the story. Ours (the Miller family) is a loving and nurturing one to this day. As we children grew we were also allowed to explore our many interests and hobbies, were encouraged to ask questions, and were encouraged to continue our education beyond high school. Both of my parents were college graduates, my father having gone to seminary after four years of college. My parents were open and tolerant of other religions, races, and socioeconomic groups. When our home was opened to missionaries, who spoke at our church, we got a great education about what was going on in the World. If you call growing up in an intellectual family who worked together in doing chores (teamwork is necessary in a large family) as screwy, then I would say that is just what the This American Life producers wanted you, as a listener, to think.

Dawn, you mention that your family consists of six people with very different personalities, strengths, and weaknesses. I would say that as individuals each of my siblings too would have differing views of what it was like growing up in a large family. Because of this, I know that one of my siblings viewed her youth as more difficult than the rest of us viewed ours and unfortunately it was this sibling’s letter to Sue, which was used in the show to skew it in the direction they saw fit, which I saw as detrimental to my family.

You must also realize that when my 96-year-old mother was interviewed, she was badgered mercilessly until she said what they wanted to hear. After the interview she was very distraught.

You say “the problems that ensued were exacerbated by major dysfunction in the Miller family”. I would take issue with that statement. Any “major dysfunction” that you perceived was put there by the interviewer. Perhaps many listeners will not understand what it was like for a married woman in the 1950s, with six children under the age of eleven, to act on something on her own without the support of her husband (who couldn’t believe it had happened). In my mother’s opinion it wasn’t an option, no matter what Mrs. McDonald said. Perhaps Mrs. McDonald had options not available to my mother, but since the hospital’s baby nurse at the time didn’t believe it (as she adamantly said 43 years later when asked), the doctor didn’t know about it, and DNA testing wasn’t available, sorting it out at the time may have been impossible and possibly would have labeled my mother as a nutcase for the rest of her life. Also, perhaps you did not grow up in the 1940s and 1950s and so you don’t understand that children then did not interfere in their parent’s lives by presuming to tell their parents what to do in any given situation.

The This American Life episode claimed that the sister I grew up with, Marti, was different than the other Miller babies right off the bat. This is not true. Both babies were dark-haired as were both of the mothers. All of us Miller babies had dark hair when we were born and almost all of us turned blonde after we lost that baby hair. Marti was no exception. Being born four years later, my parents saw many similarities between Marti and me as we grew up. Marti also had a space between her two front teeth like my mother’s. Most families can probably note differences between siblings and so a few differences wouldn’t necessarily point to a baby switch.

Although the This American Life episode would like you to think that my mother was positive about the switch, she was not. In fact, she was under sedation during the birth (the norm back then) so didn’t see the baby she birthed in the delivery room. Back in their hospital rooms she and Mrs. McDonald were always given the same babies, albeit, the wrong ones. It was mostly a mother’s intuition that gave her the suspicion, along with a weight difference that could have been explained away as the loss of weight a baby often suffers after they are born.

Esther</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[I received this comment this morning posted on the first post of this essay but wanted to let more people hear her point of view.]</p>
<p>I am the youngest daughter of Mary K. and Rev. Norbert Miller, and youngest sister of Marti and Sue, of whom the This American Life episode “Switched at Birth” is about. I must tell you that you have it wrong when you say that my mother told Sue and Marti of her suspicions (about them being switched as babies) AFTER my father passed away. In fact, the radio episode noted that my father was alive at the time my mother wrote the letters to the girls and he lived six more years beyond that.</p>
<p>You should know that I take issue with the This American Life episode, concerning the baby switch, that portrays my (Miller) family, as you say, as “screwy”. The episode chose to skew the facts to make a more dramatic story for the radio and left out a lot of facts from the interviews that would have made it fairer to the Miller family. They chose not to tell you negative things about the McDonald family that may have put a different spin on the story. Ours (the Miller family) is a loving and nurturing one to this day. As we children grew we were also allowed to explore our many interests and hobbies, were encouraged to ask questions, and were encouraged to continue our education beyond high school. Both of my parents were college graduates, my father having gone to seminary after four years of college. My parents were open and tolerant of other religions, races, and socioeconomic groups. When our home was opened to missionaries, who spoke at our church, we got a great education about what was going on in the World. If you call growing up in an intellectual family who worked together in doing chores (teamwork is necessary in a large family) as screwy, then I would say that is just what the This American Life producers wanted you, as a listener, to think.</p>
<p>Dawn, you mention that your family consists of six people with very different personalities, strengths, and weaknesses. I would say that as individuals each of my siblings too would have differing views of what it was like growing up in a large family. Because of this, I know that one of my siblings viewed her youth as more difficult than the rest of us viewed ours and unfortunately it was this sibling’s letter to Sue, which was used in the show to skew it in the direction they saw fit, which I saw as detrimental to my family.</p>
<p>You must also realize that when my 96-year-old mother was interviewed, she was badgered mercilessly until she said what they wanted to hear. After the interview she was very distraught.</p>
<p>You say “the problems that ensued were exacerbated by major dysfunction in the Miller family”. I would take issue with that statement. Any “major dysfunction” that you perceived was put there by the interviewer. Perhaps many listeners will not understand what it was like for a married woman in the 1950s, with six children under the age of eleven, to act on something on her own without the support of her husband (who couldn’t believe it had happened). In my mother’s opinion it wasn’t an option, no matter what Mrs. McDonald said. Perhaps Mrs. McDonald had options not available to my mother, but since the hospital’s baby nurse at the time didn’t believe it (as she adamantly said 43 years later when asked), the doctor didn’t know about it, and DNA testing wasn’t available, sorting it out at the time may have been impossible and possibly would have labeled my mother as a nutcase for the rest of her life. Also, perhaps you did not grow up in the 1940s and 1950s and so you don’t understand that children then did not interfere in their parent’s lives by presuming to tell their parents what to do in any given situation.</p>
<p>The This American Life episode claimed that the sister I grew up with, Marti, was different than the other Miller babies right off the bat. This is not true. Both babies were dark-haired as were both of the mothers. All of us Miller babies had dark hair when we were born and almost all of us turned blonde after we lost that baby hair. Marti was no exception. Being born four years later, my parents saw many similarities between Marti and me as we grew up. Marti also had a space between her two front teeth like my mother’s. Most families can probably note differences between siblings and so a few differences wouldn’t necessarily point to a baby switch.</p>
<p>Although the This American Life episode would like you to think that my mother was positive about the switch, she was not. In fact, she was under sedation during the birth (the norm back then) so didn’t see the baby she birthed in the delivery room. Back in their hospital rooms she and Mrs. McDonald were always given the same babies, albeit, the wrong ones. It was mostly a mother’s intuition that gave her the suspicion, along with a weight difference that could have been explained away as the loss of weight a baby often suffers after they are born.</p>
<p>Esther</p>
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