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	<title>Comments on: Who Has a Rightful &#8220;Claim&#8221; on Our Kids</title>
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	<description>I talk about adoption, infertility, adoptive parenting, and plain old parenting.</description>
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		<title>By: F. G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>F. G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 04:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your compassionate response. So many, &quot;professional&quot; would have crucified this woman. Your answer was like a warm blanket. Helpful but not condemning. I almost cried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your compassionate response. So many, &#8220;professional&#8221; would have crucified this woman. Your answer was like a warm blanket. Helpful but not condemning. I almost cried.</p>
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		<title>By: Benny's Mommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benny's Mommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t tell you how I identified with this mom! I could have written this exact letter. Thank you for not slamming her. Her feelings are real. I almost cried with relief when I read your compassionate response. I hope she did too. It&#039;s not easy learning to parent in general, but it is more complex when there are other parents involved. Thanks and by the way, your radio show has helped me more than you can imagine. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how I identified with this mom! I could have written this exact letter. Thank you for not slamming her. Her feelings are real. I almost cried with relief when I read your compassionate response. I hope she did too. It&#8217;s not easy learning to parent in general, but it is more complex when there are other parents involved. Thanks and by the way, your radio show has helped me more than you can imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie in CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a foster parent here in the states, I can tell you that we love the children that come through our home the same as our bio and adopted kids. I am always so happy to hear an update or get pictures from the families of children that have been reunited with their biological families or have been place with relatives. I don&#039;t have any desire to meddle in their lives or drop in without invitation, but the kids remain in our hearts and it is lovely to hear that they are doing well and how they have changed and grown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a foster parent here in the states, I can tell you that we love the children that come through our home the same as our bio and adopted kids. I am always so happy to hear an update or get pictures from the families of children that have been reunited with their biological families or have been place with relatives. I don&#8217;t have any desire to meddle in their lives or drop in without invitation, but the kids remain in our hearts and it is lovely to hear that they are doing well and how they have changed and grown.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn - thanks for your beautiful comments!  So helpful and comforting.  I think you really hit it home that it is hard that we&#039;re not there to decide how things are done the first several months and that is hard.  I&#039;m glad that there are loving people out there willing to be foster parents.

I do have some pictures of my kids when they jump out of the bath and start running around - my camera is slow to snap the shot so I try to get the tush but by then it&#039;s possible they&#039;ve run full gamut and it&#039;s a frontal shot.  When they&#039;re little and it&#039;s meant for your eyes only (or perhaps a future wife/husband) it&#039;s OK with me, but it&#039;s hard when you couldn&#039;t make that choice.

I especially loved your layers of love!  Thanks for sharing - I&#039;m going to use that in the future! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn &#8211; thanks for your beautiful comments!  So helpful and comforting.  I think you really hit it home that it is hard that we&#8217;re not there to decide how things are done the first several months and that is hard.  I&#8217;m glad that there are loving people out there willing to be foster parents.</p>
<p>I do have some pictures of my kids when they jump out of the bath and start running around &#8211; my camera is slow to snap the shot so I try to get the tush but by then it&#8217;s possible they&#8217;ve run full gamut and it&#8217;s a frontal shot.  When they&#8217;re little and it&#8217;s meant for your eyes only (or perhaps a future wife/husband) it&#8217;s OK with me, but it&#8217;s hard when you couldn&#8217;t make that choice.</p>
<p>I especially loved your layers of love!  Thanks for sharing &#8211; I&#8217;m going to use that in the future! <img src='http://www.creatingafamily.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharon, beautifully and artfully said. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon, beautifully and artfully said. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 02:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this post through a link on an acquaintance&#039;s blog. I adopted my daughter as an infant in the U.S. and have an open adoption, and I also happen to be a foster parent. I am sure that fostering in the U.S. is very different from fostering in other countries. Also, I&#039;ve only fostered for a short time; so far, I&#039;ve cared for 3 pairs of siblings,and the longest I have cared for foster children is 4-1/2 months - a much shorter period than many international foster parents of children who are adopted to the U.S., so the children are probably less attached to me than most international adoptees may have been to their former foster parents. But given those caveats: I think it makes a big difference going into a fostering situation knowing that the children&#039;s goal is reunification with their birth parents. Presumably, international foster parents like the ones you&#039;re discussing know the goal is for the children to be adopted into other families, so perhaps their mindset is similar to mine. I have heard the term &quot;claiming&quot; discussed in reference to adoptive parents beginning to feel that they are the child&#039;s &quot;real&quot; parents. However, I&#039;m not sure that foster parents do this same kind of claiming, since we know we aren&#039;t (probably) going to be a child&#039;s permanent parents. Though I&#039;m not religious, I agree with Patricia Dischler&#039;s sentiments. As I get to know kids, I think I begin to value them as individuals - and as this happens, I get more comfortable with them and care more about them as individuals. (I&#039;m not a fall-in-love-at-first-sight kind of person.) And when THIS happens, what would really make me happy is to know that they are doing well after they have left my care. I&#039;ve heard anecdotes from other foster parents who fostered with the intent of adopting, but who have actually said that their most rewarding moments have been when children are reunified with their birth parents. Why? Because they got to know their kids and the children&#039;s birth parents, saw and really understood the love between them, and were able to play a role in placing the children back with their parents. Perhaps international foster parents feel the same way in their role in uniting children with their adoptive parents, who they know (or desperately hope!) will love the children very much.

I&#039;ve had NO news about the 6 kids I&#039;ve cared for so far, and I&#039;m actually OK with this... because I&#039;m a little afraid of hearing bad news about them, and I&#039;d rather not hear bad news b/c I can&#039;t do anything about it. But I would be thrilled to hear that they are doing well, or to see what they look like now. I&#039;ve had direct contact with my foster kids&#039; birth families, and in each case, they have had my contact information and I&#039;ve encouraged the families, and I&#039;ve asked the social workers to tell the families, to feel free to contact me if they want to. I think it&#039;s their prerogative to contact me if they want to or not. At the same time, I&#039;m aware that I have a little piece of their history that their birth family can&#039;t share with them, and I&#039;m sad that this is a loss for them.

Interestingly, I feel like my daughter&#039;s birth mother has given us this same space. I don&#039;t have the sense that she &quot;claims&quot; my daughter, and as a result, I&#039;ve never felt uncomfortable with contact with her. I know this is not the case for all adoptive families. (At the same time, I know that fostering is VERY different from being a birth parent. I don&#039;t mean to minimize the loss to birth parents by comparing their situation to that of foster parents. Also, perhaps it&#039;s okay for parents to say whether former foster parents have any contact with or knowledge of their former foster children - per Ron&#039;s suggestion above - but I personally do not feel it is the adoptive parent&#039;s right to make this choice regarding a child&#039;s birth parents. I think it&#039;s my responsibility to keep this relationship open so that my daughter can make her own choices about the degree to which to continue the relationship when she gets older.)

I do know that not all relationships with birth parents (or even with foster parents) are healthy or safe. But in general, I guess what I&#039;m trying to suggest is that I wish adoptive parents would not feel threatened by foster parents or by birth parents. What they have to offer our kids is potentially incredibly important. And sometimes missed opportunities can become losses forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this post through a link on an acquaintance&#8217;s blog. I adopted my daughter as an infant in the U.S. and have an open adoption, and I also happen to be a foster parent. I am sure that fostering in the U.S. is very different from fostering in other countries. Also, I&#8217;ve only fostered for a short time; so far, I&#8217;ve cared for 3 pairs of siblings,and the longest I have cared for foster children is 4-1/2 months &#8211; a much shorter period than many international foster parents of children who are adopted to the U.S., so the children are probably less attached to me than most international adoptees may have been to their former foster parents. But given those caveats: I think it makes a big difference going into a fostering situation knowing that the children&#8217;s goal is reunification with their birth parents. Presumably, international foster parents like the ones you&#8217;re discussing know the goal is for the children to be adopted into other families, so perhaps their mindset is similar to mine. I have heard the term &#8220;claiming&#8221; discussed in reference to adoptive parents beginning to feel that they are the child&#8217;s &#8220;real&#8221; parents. However, I&#8217;m not sure that foster parents do this same kind of claiming, since we know we aren&#8217;t (probably) going to be a child&#8217;s permanent parents. Though I&#8217;m not religious, I agree with Patricia Dischler&#8217;s sentiments. As I get to know kids, I think I begin to value them as individuals &#8211; and as this happens, I get more comfortable with them and care more about them as individuals. (I&#8217;m not a fall-in-love-at-first-sight kind of person.) And when THIS happens, what would really make me happy is to know that they are doing well after they have left my care. I&#8217;ve heard anecdotes from other foster parents who fostered with the intent of adopting, but who have actually said that their most rewarding moments have been when children are reunified with their birth parents. Why? Because they got to know their kids and the children&#8217;s birth parents, saw and really understood the love between them, and were able to play a role in placing the children back with their parents. Perhaps international foster parents feel the same way in their role in uniting children with their adoptive parents, who they know (or desperately hope!) will love the children very much.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had NO news about the 6 kids I&#8217;ve cared for so far, and I&#8217;m actually OK with this&#8230; because I&#8217;m a little afraid of hearing bad news about them, and I&#8217;d rather not hear bad news b/c I can&#8217;t do anything about it. But I would be thrilled to hear that they are doing well, or to see what they look like now. I&#8217;ve had direct contact with my foster kids&#8217; birth families, and in each case, they have had my contact information and I&#8217;ve encouraged the families, and I&#8217;ve asked the social workers to tell the families, to feel free to contact me if they want to. I think it&#8217;s their prerogative to contact me if they want to or not. At the same time, I&#8217;m aware that I have a little piece of their history that their birth family can&#8217;t share with them, and I&#8217;m sad that this is a loss for them.</p>
<p>Interestingly, I feel like my daughter&#8217;s birth mother has given us this same space. I don&#8217;t have the sense that she &#8220;claims&#8221; my daughter, and as a result, I&#8217;ve never felt uncomfortable with contact with her. I know this is not the case for all adoptive families. (At the same time, I know that fostering is VERY different from being a birth parent. I don&#8217;t mean to minimize the loss to birth parents by comparing their situation to that of foster parents. Also, perhaps it&#8217;s okay for parents to say whether former foster parents have any contact with or knowledge of their former foster children &#8211; per Ron&#8217;s suggestion above &#8211; but I personally do not feel it is the adoptive parent&#8217;s right to make this choice regarding a child&#8217;s birth parents. I think it&#8217;s my responsibility to keep this relationship open so that my daughter can make her own choices about the degree to which to continue the relationship when she gets older.)</p>
<p>I do know that not all relationships with birth parents (or even with foster parents) are healthy or safe. But in general, I guess what I&#8217;m trying to suggest is that I wish adoptive parents would not feel threatened by foster parents or by birth parents. What they have to offer our kids is potentially incredibly important. And sometimes missed opportunities can become losses forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ron, thanks for delurking yourself and joining in the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ron, thanks for delurking yourself and joining in the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Manske</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Manske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dawn,

I&#039;ve been lurking a little bit and enjoying your blogs, and this one really jumped out at me as an adoptive father in an open adoption.

My first thought on the nude photos is in agreement with you. I haven&#039;t seen the pics, but it&#039;s possible that the pictures were taken because it was a cute moment they wanted to capture, like when a child jumps out of the bathtub and runs around naked.  If they&#039;re strictly shots of genitals, that probably is a problem (unless there was a clinical reason for taking them).

My second thought is to say that the couple who wrote this email to you has every right not to contact the foster family, and I respect their right in that.  However, speaking from an open adoption perspective, we love it when the people who loved our daughter before us continue to express an interest in her life, when they come to visit, when we visit them, and so on.  I just believe deeply that it&#039;s going to contribute to her sense of self and help her make sense of her life.  I think there&#039;s probably some insecurity by this family, which I understand, but I&#039;d encourage them to talk to more people who have been in open adoption situations or people who have kept contact with foster families.  These can be incredibly rewarding relationships for everybody involved.  And it&#039;ll help them to gain insight and share a piece of their child&#039;s life before they brought him home.

I really don&#039;t believe the foster family has any ill intentions, and I&#039;d encourage the folks who wrote you to consider opening up their hearts a little on this one.  Again, they&#039;re well within their rights not to, but I think they&#039;re missing a great opportunity for their child and their family.

Thanks for the opportunity to comment on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dawn,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been lurking a little bit and enjoying your blogs, and this one really jumped out at me as an adoptive father in an open adoption.</p>
<p>My first thought on the nude photos is in agreement with you. I haven&#8217;t seen the pics, but it&#8217;s possible that the pictures were taken because it was a cute moment they wanted to capture, like when a child jumps out of the bathtub and runs around naked.  If they&#8217;re strictly shots of genitals, that probably is a problem (unless there was a clinical reason for taking them).</p>
<p>My second thought is to say that the couple who wrote this email to you has every right not to contact the foster family, and I respect their right in that.  However, speaking from an open adoption perspective, we love it when the people who loved our daughter before us continue to express an interest in her life, when they come to visit, when we visit them, and so on.  I just believe deeply that it&#8217;s going to contribute to her sense of self and help her make sense of her life.  I think there&#8217;s probably some insecurity by this family, which I understand, but I&#8217;d encourage them to talk to more people who have been in open adoption situations or people who have kept contact with foster families.  These can be incredibly rewarding relationships for everybody involved.  And it&#8217;ll help them to gain insight and share a piece of their child&#8217;s life before they brought him home.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t believe the foster family has any ill intentions, and I&#8217;d encourage the folks who wrote you to consider opening up their hearts a little on this one.  Again, they&#8217;re well within their rights not to, but I think they&#8217;re missing a great opportunity for their child and their family.</p>
<p>Thanks for the opportunity to comment on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socialwrkr24/7: Thanks for the link. I just played around on your site. It&#039;s great. Anyone who wants to learn more about foster care and adoption go on over to eyesopenedwider.blogspot.com .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socialwrkr24/7: Thanks for the link. I just played around on your site. It&#8217;s great. Anyone who wants to learn more about foster care and adoption go on over to eyesopenedwider.blogspot.com .</p>
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		<title>By: Socialwrkr24/7</title>
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		<dc:creator>Socialwrkr24/7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 05:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dawn, I just wanted to let you know that I&#039;ve linked to this post on my blog - its amazing! Thanks so much for your thoroughly kind response. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dawn, I just wanted to let you know that I&#8217;ve linked to this post on my blog &#8211; its amazing! Thanks so much for your thoroughly kind response. <img src='http://www.creatingafamily.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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